60-Month TCO Model — Real Market Data¶
Companion to upgrade-recommendation-2026-07-14.md. Compiled 2026-07-14. Every price below is sourced from mid-2026 transaction data (Reddit/Leasehackr/Edmunds prices-paid, CarsDirect/TrueCar market averages, CarGurus Seattle listings) — citations inline. Single anecdotes are labeled.
Market realities baked into every number¶
- Seattle vehicle tax is 11.05% — 10.55% general rate + the statewide motor-vehicle tax that rose 0.3%→0.5% on 2026-01-01 (WA DOR, Avalara Seattle). (New 8% luxury surtax applies only above $102K — irrelevant here.)
- The federal EV credit is dead (30D and the 45W lease passthrough ended 2025-09-30 under OBBBA — CNBC), and WA's EV sales-tax exemption expired 2025-07-31 (WA DOL) — an EV9/Ioniq 9 never qualified anyway ($45K cap). But Kia and Hyundai replaced the credit with their own cash: $10,000 on the EV9 and $10,000 on the Ioniq 9 (CarsDirect EV9, RealCarTips Ioniq 9).
- The Telluride Hybrid transacts at/over MSRP (TrueCar: +0.8% nationally; $5K markups common in CA — CarsDirect, Leasehackr 50-dealer shop) — the only markup car left on the board.
- There is no Telluride Hybrid "SX AWD" — SX is FWD-only; the AWD mid-trim is X-Line SX ($54,490 + $1,545 dest) (Kia Media pricing).
Shared assumptions¶
| Assumption | Value | Basis |
|---|---|---|
| Annual mileage | 8,000 mi (40,000 over 60 mo) | Kia Connect actuals |
| Gas / electricity | $4.40/gal reg, $4.90 prem / $0.13/kWh | Seattle planning figures — assumptions |
| Sales tax | 11.05% | 10.55% Seattle + 0.5% MV tax (2026) — see above |
| Fees | $200 doc (WA cap) + $900 title/license | WA caps doc fees at $200 (CarEdge) |
| WA trade-in credit | Trade value deducted from taxable price — applies to leases too | WA DOR trade-ins |
| Sportage trade-in | $25,000 → tax offset $2,763 | KBB, cosmetic-adjusted |
| Insurance baseline | $2,394/yr actual + class deltas per candidate | Gmail payment history (see keep-vs-swap-2026-07-14.md) |
| Financing | Cash basis. Where a subvented APR exists it's noted — 0.99% (Volvo), 1.99% (Rivian), 3.75% (Lexus), 4.99% (Toyota GH) beat cash-opportunity logic; the OBBBA auto-loan-interest deduction (US-assembled only) is noted but not modeled |
Formula: Net 60-mo = OTD − $25K trade proceeds − resale @60 mo + fuel/energy + insurance + maintenance; ÷60. (Credit basis — for ranking candidates against each other. The keep-vs-swap wealth basis is translated in §6.)
Funding the purchase — cash pay + trade-in (the baseline)¶
Locked 2026-07-15. Every number on this page assumes:
- $25,000 Sportage trade-in (and its $2,763 WA trade-in tax offset) — baked into every OTD above and below.
- Cash purchase, funded from the $109K US Bank Joint Savings (HYSA yielding ~4–5%). No loan is modeled unless a subvented APR is noted.
- The opportunity cost of that cash is real: ~$200–250/mo of forgone HYSA yield per $60K pulled from savings. §5 now carries this as a uniform per-candidate line item, so the all-in monthly of a cash purchase is visible — the modeled $/mo alone understates it.
- When financing beats cash: if a subvented APR promo beats the HYSA yield, take the loan and leave the cash earning — 0.99% (Volvo), 1.99% (Rivian), and 3.75% (Lexus) clearly qualify; Toyota's 4.99%/48 on the Grand Highlander Hybrid (buyatoyota WA) is right at the line and worth running against the quoted HYSA rate at signing. Rule of thumb: promo APR at or below the HYSA yield → finance; above it → cash.
- Rejected: selling from brokerage to fund the purchase. Highest-cost funding path on the board — the same opportunity cost, plus capital-gains tax realized now. The HYSA is the funding source; the brokerage stays untouched.
1. Real-world OTD — what these actually sell for (July 2026)¶
"Sell" = realistic negotiated selling price incl. destination. OTD = sell + tax (after trade credit) + $1,100 fees. The $25,000 Sportage trade-in and its $2,763 WA trade-in tax credit are baked into every number on this page.
| Candidate | MSRP (incl dest) | Market posture (sourced) | Sell (model) | OTD w/ trade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sienna Hybrid AWD Platinum | $59,805 | At MSRP to −$1,500; markups gone; TrueCar avg +0.4% (TrueCar, Leasehackr −$1,500 — single anecdote) | $59,000 | $63,857 |
| Sienna Hybrid AWD XLE | $49,115 | Same posture | $48,500 | $52,197 |
| Telluride Hybrid SX-Prestige AWD | $58,135 | MSRP, markup risk +$2–5K; TrueCar +0.8% over; 50-dealer CA shop found $5K markups typical (CarsDirect, Leasehackr) | $58,135 | $62,896 |
| Telluride Hybrid X-Line SX AWD | $56,035 | Same — MSRP if you're patient | $56,035 | $60,564 |
| Kia EV9 Wind AWD | $65,545 | $10K Kia cash + $2–4K dealer discount = $12–14K off (CarsDirect, Leasehackr $17K-off deal) | $52,545 | $56,689 |
| Hyundai Ioniq 9 SEL AWD | $67,920 | $10K Hyundai cash + $1–3K dealer; PNW is the best-discount region (RealCarTips) | $55,920 | $60,437 |
| Lexus TX PHEV Luxury (550h+/500h+) | $82,060 | Full MSRP — tiny allocation; TX 350/500h discount 6–10%, PHEV doesn't (CarsDirect, Leasehackr). 3.75% APR/48 + $1,500 finance bonus available | $82,060 | $89,465 |
| Rivian R1S Dual Large | ~$84,000 (est. configured) | Direct sale; R1 Shop inventory −$1–2K + 1.99% APR/60 (RivianTrackr, KBB) | $82,500 | $89,954 |
| Volvo XC90 T8 Plus (new 2026) | $81,875 | $8–10K dealer discount + $2K cash + 0.99% APR/60; lease stacks hit $18K off (Leasehackr, Volvo offers) | $71,375 | $77,599 |
| 2024 XC90 Recharge CPO (used) | — | Seattle asking $52–59K under 25K mi (CarGurus Seattle) — Seattle asks run above national averages | $55,000 | $59,415 |
| Mazda CX-90 PHEV Premium Plus | $60,230 | $5K cash + $1K dealer bonus + ~$2K discount, or 0%/72 (CarsDirect, KBB fair price) | $52,230 | $56,339 |
| Grand Highlander Hybrid MAX Platinum | $61,370 | MSRP to −2–3%; TrueCar all-GH −3.6%; ~$2K off a MAX Platinum reported (TrueCar, GH forum); 4.99% APR/48 (buyatoyota WA) | $60,100 | $65,079 |
| Palisade Hybrid Calligraphy AWD | $60,380 | −0 to 4.2% (TrueCar via CarsDirect) | $58,570 | $63,379 |
2. Seattle vs out-of-state — verdict: don't drive¶
- No tax play exists. Buying in Oregon saves nothing: WA collects use tax at your Seattle rate at registration (WA DOR). Doc-fee delta is ~$0–50 (WA caps $200, OR ~$250).
- No documented price pattern favors Portland/Spokane on any candidate in 2026. Historical Telluride threads actually show the reverse — Portland dealers marked up $5–7K while Seattle stayed $1–2K over (tellurideforum WA thread, 2021-era, labeled historical). Individual dealer variation dominates region everywhere we looked.
- The one exception worth email (not driving): the Telluride Hybrid. If Seattle Kia stores hold markups, the documented escape valves are Denver-area stores selling at MSRP + ~$800 with order waits (tellurideforum). Email quotes cost nothing; fly-and-drive only if the delta clears ~$2K after the trip. The Ioniq 9 is the opposite: PNW is already the best-discount region (RealCarTips).
3. Buy last year's model (1-yr CPO) — works for 3 of 12¶
| Candidate | 1-yr-old price (Seattle) | Verdict |
|---|---|---|
| CX-90 PHEV | 2024s ~$28–32K — lost 45% in 2 yrs (KBB) | ★ Best CPO case on the board — $275/mo modeled. You're buying the depreciation catastrophe instead of funding it. Mazda CPO = 7yr/100K powertrain |
| Sienna XLE (2024) | ~$42–43K avg (Cars.com) | Good — saves $4–6K vs new XLE; ~$277/mo. Toyota CPO 7/100 powertrain + hybrid battery to 10/150 from in-service |
| XC90 Recharge 2024 CPO | $52–59K asking, <25K mi (CarGurus Seattle) | Works, but the gap narrowed — new T8 at $10K+ off is only ~$45/mo more. Volvo CPO adds 12mo/unlimited-mi; strongest CPO terms here |
| R1S Dual Large (2024) | ~$65K (KBB) — prices stabilized, CarGurus +7% YoY | Decent (~$697/mo vs $836 new) but used-Rivian warranty and 1.99% new APR blunt it |
| EV9 (2024 Wind AWD) | ~$44.3K Seattle (CarGurus); −48% in 2 yrs (KBB) | Trap disguised as a deal — models to $421/mo vs $429 new. Kia's $13K off new EV9s is why used ones are $44K. Buy new |
| Sienna Platinum (2025) | $54.8–62.2K (CARFAX) — at/above discounted new | Doesn't work — Sienna loses ~5% in 3 years (iSeeCars) |
| GH Hybrid MAX Platinum (2025) | $60–64K asking, 9 listings (CarGurus) | Doesn't work — used ≥ new |
| TX PHEV | 1 (one) used listing nationwide (Cars.com) | No path |
| Telluride Hybrid, Palisade Hybrid, Ioniq 9 | — | Too new — no 1-yr-old cohort exists yet |
Rule that falls out: CPO only works where depreciation is savage (CX-90 PHEV, XC90, EV-anything) — and on EVs the new-side discounts already capture most of it. On Toyotas, CPO is paying new-car money for a used car.
4. Leasing — July 2026 offers¶
Context: with 45W dead, lease economics run entirely on manufacturer subvention. Kia/Hyundai/Volvo are subventing; Toyota/Lexus are not (MF 6.2–7.4% APR-equivalent, zero lease cash — Edmunds Sienna thread, Edmunds TX thread). WA taxes lease payments (~11.05%), and the trade-in credit legally works on leases — but don't sink $25K of Sportage equity into a lease; sell it separately if leasing.
| Candidate | Advertised offer (natl, pre-tax) | Effective $/mo incl WA tax | Verdict |
|---|---|---|---|
| EV9 Wind AWD | $449/mo, 36/10K, $3,999 DAS — built on $12K lease cash, RV ~55% (CarsDirect) | ~$610 | 👍 The lease standout. RV 55% vs actual EV9 5-yr depreciation of 63% (iSeeCars) = Kia eats the resale risk that makes buying one scary |
| Ioniq 9 SEL AWD | $533/mo, 36 mo, $0 down — $12–13K lease cash (RealCarTips) | ~$592 | 👍 Same logic, zero down |
| XC90 T8 (Plus) | $619/mo, 36 mo, $7,359 DAS (Volvo offers) | ~$890 | Neutral — subvented and fair for an $82K car; 0.99% APR purchase is the better Volvo play |
| CX-90 PHEV (Preferred) | $299/mo, 33 mo, $8,989 DAS (CarsDirect) | ~$620 | Neutral — heavy DAS, base trim; buying with $6K cash is stronger |
| Telluride Hybrid | EX FWD $499 + $3,999 DAS; no lease cash; SX-P unadvertised (CarsDirect) | ~$677 (base trim!) | 👎 Strong residual + no subvention = you prepay Kia's optimism |
| Palisade Hybrid | Calligraphy $759 + $3,999 DAS (Autoblog, March) | ~$950 | 👎 |
| Sienna / Grand Highlander | No lease incentives, MF ~7.2–7.4% | — | 👎 "Better to buy than lease" — CarsDirect, verbatim |
| TX PHEV | No lease incentives (MF 6.2%) | — | 👎 Finance at 3.75% instead |
| R1S Dual Large | $1,189/mo, 36 mo, $9,084 DAS (CarsDirect) | ~$1,550 | 👎 1.99% APR purchase is the Rivian play |
When leasing makes sense for Peter: exactly one scenario — the EV experiment. He's unsure about EV-vs-hybrid direction; 8K mi/yr fits any 10K cap; an EV9/Ioniq 9 lease at ~$592–610/mo all-in transfers the worst-in-set depreciation risk to the captive and leaves a 2029 exit when the tech and charging map look different. That optionality costs ~$180/mo over buying the same discounted EV9 and holding 60 mo. If the answer is a hybrid (Sienna/Telluride), leasing is strictly worse than buying — no subvention, strong residuals you'd be renting back.
Cash-pay wrinkle (added 2026-07-15): once the forgone HYSA yield on the purchase cash is counted (see Funding, above), the EV9 lease-vs-buy gap narrows from ~$180/mo to ~$60/mo — the lease leaves the ~$32K of net cash in savings earning ~$120/mo. And a 36-mo lease signed now ends in 2029, one year ahead of the anticipated 2028–2030 Sienna-redesign / improved-Carnival window, which is exactly when Peter plans to re-decide. Under that bridge lens the EV9 lease is the tightest strategic fit on the board.
5. The board — head-to-head (credit basis, $/mo over 60 mo)¶
| Candidate | Buy new (60 mo) | 4-yr hold (48 mo)⁴ | Opp. cost of cash⁵ | All-in cash-pay (60 mo)⁵ | Buy 1-yr CPO | Lease 36 mo (eff., incl tax) | Lease? |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sienna Hybrid XLE AWD | $304 | ≈ flat | ~$100 | ~$405 | ~$277 (2024) | no offer | 👎 |
| Sienna Hybrid Platinum AWD | $394 | ~$388 | ~$145 | ~$540 | n/a — used ≥ new | no offer | 👎 |
| Grand Highlander Hyb MAX Platinum | $392–440¹ | ~$385–430 | ~$150 | ~$540–590 | n/a — used ≥ new | no offer | 👎 |
| Kia EV9 Wind AWD | $429 | ~$444 | ~$120 | ~$550 | $421 (2024 — skip) | ~$610 | 👍 |
| Ioniq 9 SEL AWD | $477 | worse (EV curve) | ~$135 | ~$610 | too new | ~$592 | 👍 |
| Telluride Hybrid X-Line SX AWD | $486 | ~$486 | ~$135 | ~$620 | too new | — | 👎 |
| Palisade Hybrid Calligraphy | $495 | ≈ flat | ~$145 | ~$640 | too new | ~$950 | 👎 |
| CX-90 PHEV Premium Plus | $509 | — | ~$120 | ~$630 | $275 (2024 — ★) | ~$620 (base) | neutral |
| Telluride Hybrid SX-Prestige AWD | $510² | ~$510 | ~$140 | ~$650 | too new | ~$677 (base EX!) | 👎 |
| 2024 XC90 Recharge CPO | — | — | ~$130 | ~$750 (CPO basis) | $618 | — | — |
| XC90 T8 Plus new | $663 | — | ~$195 | ~$860 | — | ~$890 | neutral |
| Lexus TX PHEV Luxury | $685–780³ | ~$705–800 | ~$240 | ~$925–1,020 | none exist | no offer | 👎 |
| Rivian R1S Dual Large | ~$836 | — | ~$245 | ~$1,080 | $697 (2024) | ~$1,550 | 👎 |
¹ GH range reflects resale sensitivity (60–65% retention). ² At MSRP; each $1K of markup ≈ +$18/mo. ³ Range reflects unknown PHEV resale (52–55% retention assumed — no track record). ⁴ 4-yr-hold sensitivity (2030-bridge lens, added 2026-07-15) for the shortlist cars: operating costs pro-rated to 48 mo; capital consumed by month 48 assumed at 70% of the 60-mo total for Toyota hybrids (back-loaded curves — the Sienna loses only ~5% in 3 yrs per iSeeCars), 80% for the Kia/Hyundai hybrids (near-linear), 85% for the TX PHEV, 90% for EVs (front-loaded — iSeeCars EV9 curve). Direction is the point: front-loaded depreciators (EVs, the TX) get worse on a 4-yr hold; flat-curve hybrids and CPO buys don't. Derived sensitivity on the same inputs — not new pricing data. ⁵ Opportunity cost of paying cash: net cash out × ~4.5%/12 (US Bank joint HYSA at ~4–5%) — ~$200–250/mo per $60K pulled from savings. All-in cash-pay = buy-new $/mo + opp. cost. Leases leave the capital in savings (opp. cost ≈ $0), which is why the EV9 lease's premium over buying is ~$60/mo all-in, not ~$180.
Detail math for the top three:
- Sienna Platinum: net cash $38,857 − resale $35,900 (60% of MSRP) + fuel $5,333 (33 real MPG) + ins $12,970 ($2,394 baseline + $200 class delta) + maint $2,400 = $23,660 → $394/mo
- Telluride SX-P: net cash $37,896 − resale $29,000 (50%) + fuel $6,069 (29 real) + ins $13,250 ($2,394 + ~$250 class delta) + maint $2,400 = $30,615 → $510/mo
- EV9 Wind: net cash $31,689 − resale $24,250 (37% of MSRP — iSeeCars EV9 curve) + energy $2,000 + ins $14,500 ($2,394 + ~$500 class delta) + maint $1,800 = $25,739 → $429/mo. Resale is the swing: each ±$3K ≈ ±$50/mo. The lease exists to cap exactly this.
6. Peter's actual question — the swap delta, restated on the wealth basis¶
keep-vs-swap-2026-07-14.md basis (capital consumed + operating + tabs; keep-Sportage ≈ $630/mo):
| Swap to | Delta vs keeping | Driver |
|---|---|---|
| Sienna Platinum AWD | ≈ +$240/mo | At-MSRP posture, best-in-set resale |
| EV9 Wind AWD | ≈ +$290/mo | ~$13K real discounts offset the worst-in-set depreciation |
| Telluride Hybrid SX-P | ≈ +$355/mo (+$390 if a $2K markup sticks) | At/over-MSRP posture + $1,545 dest + 11.05% tax |
So: the upgrade premium is ~$240 (Sienna), ~$290 (EV9), ~$355 (Telluride). The Telluride's HDA2 tiebreaker costs a real ~$1,380/yr over the Sienna, and the EV9 is the middle option on money, not the most expensive.
7. Sensitivities & gaps¶
- Every $1,000 of price movement ≈ $18/mo. Insurance deltas are class estimates — a Progressive quote on the target VIN is still the biggest single unknown.
- The 2030-bridge lens changes the hold assumption, not the math: Peter anticipates a Sienna 5th-gen redesign or a materially improved Kia Carnival (AWD hybrid or PHEV) in the 2028–2030 window, which makes this a 3–4-year purchase, not a 5-year one. The 4-yr column above is the sensitivity for that; the strategic ranking lives on the site homepage.
- The Sienna Woodland Edition ($51,600 MSRP, AWD standard, raised suspension, factory hitch + 1500W outlet — KBB) is not separately modeled; it lands between the XLE ($304/mo) and Platinum ($394/mo) figures. Worth a model run if it survives the test drive.
- EV9/Ioniq 9 resale assumptions are the least certain numbers in this file; the lease is the hedge.
- Telluride Hybrid markup risk is real and local — get OTD quotes from Chuck Olson, Puyallup, Lee Johnson in the same week; email Denver stores for leverage.
- Facebook groups not searched — FB anti-bot blocks prevented group-thread access this session; OTD data leans on Leasehackr/Edmunds/forums/CarsDirect-TrueCar instead. The NO MARK UP TOYOTA group is worth a manual scroll before the Sienna purchase.
- Lease offers expire ~8/3/26 (Toyota/Lexus) and ~7/31/26 (Kia/Volvo/Mazda/Rivian) — numbers reset monthly.